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AMSOIL Vs. Red line Oil

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When AMSOIL created the 20W-50 Racing Oil, it seems the competition got upset with the testing results showing it's better protection. For years Red Line advertised that they provided the best protection, but the results of the Four Ball Wear Test showed the AMSOIL Series 2000 20W-50 providing over twice the protection.

Red Line decided that they would perform their own test by running both oils and then seeing what results they would come up with. Their results some how showed their oil to be better. In an attempt to discourage the promotion of AMSOIL they mailed this information to all AMSOIL Dealers as well as their own reps.

The findings of the Four Ball Wear Test were that of 100 tests and coming up with an average. Unlike the Red Line test, it could be proved over and over, under proper testing conditions. Rather than going along with the hype that this action provoked, AMSOIL issued the following letter:

Recently Red Line Synthetic Oil Corporation mailed an article to AMSOIL Dealers outlining results of testing done on AMSOIL 20W-50 Racing Oil and Red Line products. AMSOIL finds the article flawed in both its marketing approach and scientific methodology.

Initial Red Line testing of an unused sample of AMSOIL 20W-50 Racing Oil in the ASTM D4172 Four Ball Wear Test yielded results consistent with those appearing on the product label. That is, AMSOIL 20W-50 provided nearly three times better wear protection than Red Line 20W-50.

The article, however, goes on to report results of used oil testing using the ASTM D4172 Test. ASTM tests, as any informed entity in the lubricants industry knows, are designed for use with new (unused) lubricants, not used oil.

There are two problems with testing used oil. First, the conditions of testing are uncontrollable. While Red Line states the service conditions under which the samples operated were the same, variables including fuel and glycol dilution, contaminant levels, filtration, driving conditions sampling techniques and many more are virtually impossible to control.

The second problem is repeatability. AMSOIL attempted to replicate Red Line's findings by testing samples of used oil. The results were inconsistent with Red Line's and failed to meet the repeatability requirements of the ASTM D4172 test method. This failure is the result of testing an oil along with its contaminants.

Red Line's claim that their oil is designed to become more effective as it reacts with blowby gases is absurd. Clearly, if blowby gases improved the anti-wear characteristics of lubricants, then lubricant manufacturers would expose their products to such gases during the manufacturing process. The fact is, lubricant performance should not depend on the uncontrollable reactions of blowby gases with the oil.

Is AMSOIL 20W-50 Racing Oil better than Red Line?

Yes.

When all the appropriate, scientifically valid, repeatable tests are applied Series 2000 is clearly the better oil.

Of course, AMSOIL Dealers are much too educated on the technical aspect of lubrication and on the principles of ethical salesmanship to be swayed by unscientific and unprofessional marketing tactics. And as the documented histories of vehicles achieving oil drain intervals greater than 100,000 miles under the Trigard Program continue to mount, dealers are assured that AMSOIL motor oils remain the standard by which other oils are measured.


AMSOIL Motor Oils also Reduces Oil Consumption and Emissions
& Excels in Extreme Temperatures

Volatility (burn-off) occurs when motor oil gets hot, causing high oil consumption and emissions. AMSOIL motor oil has the lowest volatility rate of the oils tested, making it the best at controlling volatility-related oil consumption and emissions (see chart below).

AMSOIL motor oil resists thermal (heat) breakdown better than conventional oils. It is heavily fortified with detergent and dispersant additives to prevent sludge deposits and keep engines clean. And unlike conventional oils, AMSOIL motor oils contain no wax. It stays fluid down to -58°F for improved cold temperature oil flow, reduced bearing wear and easier starting (see chart).

Noack Volatility and Pour Point test results

In 2013 AMSOIL again compared Red Line motor oil along with 9 other brands. For full report refer, 2013 synthetic oil comparison test results page

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Blog Title: AMSOIL Vs. Red Line Motor Oil
Current Rating: 3.44 out of 5 stars
Votes & Reviews: 41 vote(s) and 4 user reviews.


Reviewed by Josh: space

Redline 5w40 euro vs AMSOIL 5w40 euro fs

I recently switched from redline to AMSOIL, I find the car runs rougher and has more noise during cold start. I have to check a blackstone report to be sure though.

Item Reviewed: AMSOIL Vs. Red Line Motor Oil
Discussion Url | Syracuse, New York

Re: Redline 5w40 euro vs AMSOIL 5w40 euro fs

Usually the opposite should be the case. Can you please call our tech support to get help? Call (715) 399-TECH (8324) Replied by Tech Admin

Reviewed by Tom S.: space

Mercedes Diesel Instructor

The two previous reviews only prove how little the average person knows about modern oil and emissions systems. I wish oil companies would actually try to educate owners about what’s really important. Trust me, most mechanics don’t understand how oil affects blow-by and the crankcase ventilation system. I know you have to dumb it down to fit a 20 second attention span. Redline and Amsoil are both in a league of their own. Depending on the type of engine and driving conditions, they both have advantages. Amsoil 20w/50 Dominator Diesel is the very best in a diesel driven in scorching heat and pulling a heavy load up steep mountains. But short trips in cool weather is a different story. Someone needs to tell the owners of some engines their money is better spent on better oil filtration and a Catch Tank.
I would like to see either of you address B20 - B100 biodiesel fuel dilution. I realize it’s more of a problem for Mercedes and their post injection process, but it’s only going to get worse for all diesels. Motul 300V line claims their oil is chemically compatible with biodiesel. Amsoil and Redline don’t say anything. Can you please address this question?

Item Reviewed: AMSOIL Vs. Red Line Motor Oil
Discussion Url | Folsom, California

Reviewed by Stepdad1998: space

Unproven results

2 oil changes on my 2019 Accord Hybrid Touring. Not see any improvement on gas mileage nor the engine running quieter nor any louder. Have a 2021 Highlander V-6 XLE AWD…wondering if results will be the same as Accord. Used the top end Amsoil (Signature Series ) due to reviews. If not going to see marked improvement on mileage then back to Platinum Penzoil made with Natural gas because of the price.

Item Reviewed: AMSOIL Vs. Red Line Motor Oil
Discussion Url | Winter Haven, Florida

Re: Unproven results

If your engine is in good condition with internal moving parts close to factory tolerances then there may not noticeable difference in quietness. However, AMSOIL can keep your engine like new for much longer than other oils.

Mileage difference on a hybrid may not be as noticeable in comparison to conventional vehicles. Replied by Tech Admin

Reviewed by low6rider: space

butter

im not sure you know this but table butter does better that amsoil in the four ball test,just saying

Item Reviewed: AMSOIL Vs. Red Line Motor Oil
Discussion Url | Edmonton, Alberta

Re: butter

Can you run it in your engine? Replied by Tech Admin

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